[service-orientated-architecture] Re: Mark on Microservices

[Steve Jones [e-mail] [service-orientated-architecture]]

On 29 June 2015 at 13:29, Nick Gall ***@gmail.com
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I do think that saying we should ignore learning from historic
approaches like OO and SOA makes zero sense. Linking current thinking to
its historical routes and highlighting what worked and what didn't is at
the heart of progress.

Who said anything about ignoring the history of SOA? Not me. I want
people to learn from it's shortcomings.

You said that we should get on with ignoring it... hard to say that is
about learning.

I said, "So until someone provides a significant number of concrete,
detailed examples of realized OASIS-defined SOAs, that aren't just everyday
businesses offering everyday services, let's PLEASE go back to ignoring
SOA."

The start of that statement includes a restriction (must be OASIS defined,
which is one definition, and has been used), qualifies out business
architecture (which I disagree with) then you say lets go back to
ignoring....

That would include "highlighting what worked and what didn't" in concrete
and detailed terms from actual implementations of SOA.

Of which a quick Google will find you a bunch, starting with the
anti-patterns on what doesn't work.

But do people contribute such post-mortems to this group? From actual
business people who implemented the SOA? With case-study-level details, not
just platitudes about how successful their SOA is?

Not sure a Yahoo email list is the right place to publish case studies....


http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/lawson/the-three-best-examples-of-successful-soas/?cs=16305
has three examples that Anne thought were worthy, and a quick google will
find many more, that one even references you and your call at the time for
WOA as the answer BTW.

Never. Instead we get pissing matches like this one.
THAT'S why I said ignore SOA and this group. And now I'm going to follow
my own advice.
Ciao.
-- Nick

Bye


Steve